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April 19, 2010 at 2:08 PM #24579
I’m a c# web application developer. Our company has just purchased BizTalk 2009 server and installed the VM on each developer’s computer. We had a 5-day course training (course # 2933A). But I still have no clue how to integrate a regualr web application with BizTalk and how BizTalk could be used.
If you may provide links to tutorial or other kinds of explanation, it will be highly appreciated.
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April 19, 2010 at 2:28 PM #24580
This is the question I posted before signing up.
Please help me with this question.
Thanks.
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April 19, 2010 at 2:52 PM #24583
In general BizTalk provides several Adapters (SOAP, HTTP, FILE, FTP, SQL, WCF….etc) to integrate with different heterogeneous applications. BizTalk can provide respective Adapter based on the target application’s understandable protocol.
To begin with BizTalk learning you can follow following links for Videos, Lessons, Articles, Blogs etc:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/pt-br/biztalk/default.aspx
I would start with Microsoft’s webcast to begin with:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/biztalk/aa937645.aspx
Happy Learning 🙂
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April 20, 2010 at 7:18 AM #24591
[quote user="mohanaryal"]
In general BizTalk provides several Adapters (SOAP, HTTP, FILE, FTP, SQL, WCF….etc) to integrate with different heterogeneous applications. BizTalk can provide respective Adapter based on the target application’s understandable protocol.
To begin with BizTalk learning you can follow following links for Videos, Lessons, Articles, Blogs etc:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/pt-br/biztalk/default.aspx
I would start with Microsoft’s webcast to begin with:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/biztalk/aa937645.aspx
Happy Learning 🙂
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Thanks for providing these links. I’ll check them out.
Another question: Do BizTalk developers all have background in web or windows applications? Are BizTalk developers a higher level of developers?
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April 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM #24593
Another question: Do BizTalk developers all have background in web or windows applications? Are BizTalk developers a higher level of developers?
Hi,All developoers I know – started messing around with Biztalk after they have some background in developing (mostly as system or winforms or MOSS developers)BTS Developers are developers bad or good, but with different approach to solve a problem. From my expirience – most of BTS programmers – have understanding in architechture, about how to “Core” of what they integrate and “connect” altogether – work. Usually you need to understand business needs of customer you develop solution for.-
April 20, 2010 at 11:57 AM #24595
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From my expirience – most of BTS programmers – have understanding in architechture, about how to “Core” of what they integrate and “connect” altogether – work. Usually you need to understand business needs of customer you develop solution for.
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This makes sense. During the 5-day training, we did not write any programming codes. All we did was to drag and drop. Is it true that BizTalk developers do not actually write any codes since those low-level programming has been automatically taken care of?
I appreciate your patience to answer such simple questions.
Lynn
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April 21, 2010 at 1:50 AM #24599
Hi,
It’s nothing – I’m pleased to answer your questions.
It’s not true about “not coding at all” – it very much depends on your project – sometimes enough to create some schemas and publish them as WebService, and sometime – all code is written “behind” – cause customer wants solution built on BTS and the server not “so much” suits customer’s real needs. Or sometimes you need to create something what is needed in your project because of BTS inability to do something.
But the thnking is more “architectural” than usual coder/programmer. At least I think so -_^
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April 21, 2010 at 9:15 AM #24605
[quote user="Zx7R"]
Hi,
It’s nothing – I’m pleased to answer your questions.
It’s not true about “not coding at all” – it very much depends on your project – sometimes enough to create some schemas and publish them as WebService, and sometime – all code is written “behind” – cause customer wants solution built on BTS and the server not “so much” suits customer’s real needs. Or sometimes you need to create something what is needed in your project because of BTS inability to do something.
But the thnking is more “architectural” than usual coder/programmer. At least I think so -_^
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Thanks again for replying.
I enjoy my work very much but I think I would enjoy BizTalk programming much more since I like more atchitectural thinking. I did some pay scale search but was surprised that BizTalk developers are paid only slightly higher than other programmers. I would guess the job marketing is narrow for BizTalk developers since only large companies use BizTalk.
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April 21, 2010 at 10:27 AM #24613
About payment: it depends very much, like in any other profession.
But after you have a deal with EAI – it’s easier to get to higher levels of developing – like project management (this helps to see all habits of developing problems), it helps to work with people, make connections, cause usually you create solutions for enterprises and distributed applications (yes – there are also people), or architecture 🙂
Good luck.
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April 20, 2010 at 5:43 AM #24588
To use BizTalk for the web application you need to create a custom BizTalk component like pipeline, send port, receive port etc.. which can interact with the database when message received and processed by the BizTalk Server.
So I suggest start learning from, How to create the custom BizTalk component.
Hope this will help you.
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April 20, 2010 at 7:13 AM #24590
[quote user="rsparsh"]
To use BizTalk for the web application you need to create a custom BizTalk component like pipeline, send port, receive port etc.. which can interact with the database when message received and processed by the BizTalk Server.
So I suggest start learning from, How to create the custom BizTalk component.
Hope this will help you.
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Thank you for your reply. The training course actuallly taught us how to create pipeline, send port etc. However, I don’t see how that interacts with a regular web application. Do you mean interacting with the same database is how a regular web application integrates with BizTalk? In another word, BizTalk does not have direct interaction with a web application. Do I understand it correctly?
I appreciate your help again.
Lynn
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