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You can send the message directly to the supplier, but it is only as secure as the transport mechanism.
Classical form was to dial into a VAN via modem and transfer by x, y or z modem. Assuming the receiver was also dialing into the VAN to receive, the transfer was secure because it was a point to point transfer each party, thus never being in the reach of the internet.
From a desire to bypass the VAN fees and transfer point to point via the internet, AS2 has evolved. AS2 uses https to ensure point to point encryption.
Some still prefer the value added features of the VAN and use AS2 to transfer to the VAN.
An additional mechanism I have used is Secure FTP.
You could conceivably roll your own transfer mechanism via https, but with COTS products being available, it would make less sense to do this.
The leading COTS product is Cyclone; Covast has an AS2 adaptor; 2006 R2 has an AS2 adaptor, and there are others still.
Take my advice with a grain of salt, since Richard Seroter called me a weak architect and Stephen has locked the discussion of R2 to allow Richard to have the last word. So I'll let those experts expound with their wisdom from their vast experience in the matter.
-weak architect
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Sorry, but what do you mean by “Stephen has locked the discussion of R2 to allow Richard to have the last word”?
All forum topics are open and free for anyone to post comments.
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Well, as the discussion was going on, I noticed on one post that the reply page said something to the effect of "this forum is moderated, your reply will not show until it is approved by the moderator" and it took until a day later for my reply to show up on the thread. I had never seen this reply on any other post on the forum. My posts on all other threads appear instantaneously on other threads.
Consequently, my last post to the said thread in question never did show up.
http://www.biztalkgurus.com/forums/thread/6847.aspx
So Stephen, hopefully you can understand the reasons for my suspicion. I was accused of being a frustrated Covast employee, among other things, which I am not. I am an EDI architect that has invested career time in a product that turned out to be a bust. My valid criticisms were met with derision and flat out misinformation from the Microsoft employee, and then I was apparently silenced on that thread. Forgive me if there is another explanation.
Also, FYI, Seroter embarrassed himself. He said on that thread that the upgrade from 2000 to 2002 was notably painful. What he should have said was 2002 to 2004. It is pretty shameful for someone who claims to have knowledge of the product prove himself to be such a rookie. There was other misinformation he spread also. To say that Microsoft never sold BizTalk as a full EDI solution is a flat out lie.
So why is there so much censoring and misinformation being spread on a web board claiming to be free and open?
– weak architect
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This is not true.
I do no moderation or censoring of any kind on anything BizTalk / Microsoft related.
I encourage open, free, and anonymous (if you wish) communication and discussion.
The only moderation / deletion is for SPAM related items. The spam filers sometimes catch non-spam posts, but I always approve non-SPAM items regardless of content.
And to be honest, if the topic isn’t “buy meds here” I don’t even read the posts that are flag for moderation.
I do have other controls in place that restrict number of posts and duplicate posts, but again only for SPAM control.
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OK, I guess I stand corrected. I am glad that you aren't doing anything unethical.
Thanks for providing an open forum.
– weak architect
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Play nicely now……
So, just to recap. I can use the http adapter in Biztalk 06 to send a message via https (post) directly to the Suppliers https//server??
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[quote user="Anonymous"]Play nicely now……
So, just to recap. I can use the http adapter in Biztalk 06 to send a message via https (post) directly to the Suppliers https//server??
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Yes, presumably you can use that transport. It requires coordination on both sides. I have never done it. He has to have the server application to receive the file and use it. There would usually be a response document in this handshake, telling you that the complete file was transferred.Basically what you are asking is "can I roll my own https transport?" and the answer is yes. Especially if you can write the application on your end and the supplier's end.
Because of the application conventions required for reliability, AS2 is the preferred standardized https transport adaptor. Here is a "free" one (whatever free means) http://www.freeas2.com/
Let us know how it goes.
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*Sigh*. To backtrack a post, I didn't say the move from 2000 to 2002 was rough, I said "While the upgrade story from 2000/02 was admittedly rough .." meaning moving from either versions 2000 or 2002 up to the latest version was, and is, challenging.
Back on THIS point, the HTTP adapter supports SSL (see "SSL Client certificate thumbprint" property in send port).
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